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Five practical takeaways
- Agree what happens before an unexpected event forces the decision.
- Make sure your shareholder agreement and articles of association work together.
- Agree how the business will be valued before that valuation becomes contentious.
- Review protection when ownership, valuation or circumstances change.
- Think about the person the business may need to replace, not only the shares.
Summary
During our Startup 2 Standup session, Rob Thacker and Stuart Johns discussed what can happen when a shareholder or key person suddenly dies or becomes critically ill.
What we heard throughout the session was the importance of clarity around ownership, valuation and protection before an unexpected event forces difficult decisions.
The founders in the room then tested those points against their own businesses and experiences.
Introduction
Rob and Stuart joined us to share situations they had encountered where businesses were left dealing with uncertainty after the loss of an owner or key person.
Stuart described an acquisition of around £6 million where a selling director and shareholder died during due diligence. He explained that there was no will in place and that the articles of association had not been constructed appropriately. Stuart said the resulting situation derailed the acquisition.
Rob also recalled visiting a business whose owner had died while abroad. A year later, the directors were still dealing with probate and trying to work out how to keep the company moving.
What became clear from the conversation was simple: these decisions are easier to make before something goes wrong.
Takeaway 1: Agree what happens before something goes wrong
Rob described getting a shareholder agreement in place as the first step.
For him, the important part was having the conversation about what happens if a shareholder dies or is affected by a critical illness that changes their position in the business.
The agreement can create clarity around who owns what and what position different shareholders are in if something unexpected happens.
Rob also highlighted minority shareholders. Even where someone owns a smaller stake, their position still matters when founders are thinking through what happens next.
A useful founder question: If one of our shareholders disappeared tomorrow, would everyone already understand what happens next?
Clarity before crisis matters.
Takeaway 2: Make sure the agreement reflects the ownership structure
Rob and Stuart repeatedly connected the shareholder agreement with the company’s articles of association.
Stuart’s acquisition example showed why. He explained that there was no will in place and that the articles had not been set up appropriately for what happened next.
At the end of the session, Rob returned to the same point: the articles and shareholder agreement need to sit alongside each other.
For founders, the practical question is whether those arrangements still reflect the company as it operates today.
A useful founder question: Have our ownership arrangements changed since these documents were last looked at?
Takeaway 3: Agree how the company will be valued
Rob identified the valuation mechanism as an important part of the discussion, particularly for growing businesses.
If a shareholder’s interest has to be dealt with, the people involved need an agreed basis for understanding what that interest is worth.
He also pointed out that a growing company can change in value quickly. Protection put in place earlier may therefore stop matching the value of the business if nobody revisits it.
That makes the valuation question practical rather than theoretical.
A useful founder question: If we had to value one shareholder’s stake today, have we already agreed the basis for doing it?
Takeaway 4: Review protection when the business changes
Dean, one of the founders in the room, gave a useful example.
He explained that his business had started with a basic shareholder agreement, but the ownership picture had since become more complicated. He had taken shares in another company, that company had taken shares in his, a CFO had joined, and some staff also held shares.
Rob immediately picked up on what he called the “change factor”.
Rob said that life and critical-illness protection backing the shareholder agreement should be reviewed at least every three years to make sure it keeps up.
Stuart suggested that fast-growing businesses may want to review things more frequently, around every 18 months, as well as when significant events occur. His examples included buying another business or selling a percentage of equity.
The point was not that every company follows one timetable. It was that changes can make old arrangements less relevant.
An agreement only helps if it still reflects the business.
Takeaway 5: Think about the person as well as the shares
One of the strongest questions came from Ruth.
She asked what happens if the shareholder who dies is also the person with a critical skill: for example, a technical co-founder: while a family member who remains involved cannot replace that expertise.
Stuart explained that the financial impact may extend beyond the shareholding. A business might also need to consider recruitment costs, downtime and potentially bringing in interim support while it replaces that person.
Dean then shared his own experience from a previous business. The team had discussed key-person insurance but decided not to put it in place. Six months later, the woman running operations was diagnosed with terminal cancer and later died.
Dean was careful about the impact. He said the resulting financial cost was one factor, not the main factor, in the business eventually going under.
That founder experience sharpened the question behind the discussion:
Which people would be genuinely difficult or costly for your business to replace?
How can founders continue the conversation?
Our role at Startup 2 Standup is to bring questions like these into the room with founders and specialists who understand the subject.
Founders can bring live business challenges into our weekly Founder Surgery calls, explore previous discussions through our guest-speaker archive, or watch sessions through the Startup 2 Standup YouTube channel.
You can also explore Real Startup Questions. Real Founder Answers. or Startup 2 Standup membership for access to further community conversations and the Knowledge Bank.
Conclusion
The clearest takeaway from Rob and Stuart’s session was that shareholder protection is about reducing uncertainty and creating choices before they are urgently needed.
An agreement, a clear valuation basis and appropriate protection cannot stop something difficult happening. What they can do, as Rob and Stuart explained, is make the consequences easier to navigate.
For founders, that leaves one practical question:
If one of the people our ownership structure depends on could not continue tomorrow, have we already discussed what happens next?
If this is a question you are working through now, bring it into a SU2SU Founder Surgery, watch the Rob Thacker and Stuart Johns session through our YouTube channel, or explore Startup 2 Standup membership to continue the conversation with founders and relevant specialists.
FAQs
What did Rob say founders should consider first about shareholder protection?
Rob described getting a shareholder agreement in place as the first step, alongside discussing what happens if a shareholder dies or is affected by a critical illness that changes their position in the business.
Why did valuation come up in the session?
Rob explained that founders need a clear basis for valuing the company because growing businesses can change in value and protection arrangements need to keep pace.
How often did Rob and Stuart suggest reviewing the arrangements?
Rob said protection backing the shareholder agreement should be reviewed at least every three years, while Stuart suggested around every 18 months for fast-growing businesses. Both also discussed reviewing arrangements when significant changes occur.
What happens if a shareholder’s family wants to stay involved?
A founder asked this during the session. Rob and Stuart explained that continued involvement may be possible depending on what has been agreed and the circumstances of the business. Their wider point was to consider those choices before they become urgent.
Is losing a shareholder only an ownership problem?
No. Ruth’s question highlighted what happens when the shareholder also brings a critical skill. Stuart explained that recruitment, downtime and interim support may also need to be considered when thinking about the financial impact of losing that person.
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